I'm not saying the OP's point isn't valid I'm saying it won't solve anything when it comes to Alliances with well over 2000 members against Alliances with (if they're lucky) 500 members, and forget Alliances with less than 200 members. Gigantic Alliances will be able to steamroll smaller ones no matter what ship types they're using, period, because all that really matters in Eve's blob warfare is who has the biggest blob. That's not to say a smaller blob NEVER wins, but when faced with 1.5-1 or as much as 20-1 ratios the smaller Fleet with lose most of the time.

Also, SP capping out players basically gives them nothing to work for and thus CCP may lose subs, even if all they have to train for now is different Race's Supers.

Perhaps its not the supercaps that "ruin" the game. Perhaps its the cyno is the issue. Yeah it would require the gates to be able to handle every ship size.
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I believe that cynos are a the root of the evil stalemate in 0.0 .

remove supers and swarms of regular carriers will bloat out your sun. nothing solved

And regular Carriers + Dreads can't do much of anything against a large whelp fleet of sub caps. If some small Alliance trying to eek out an existence drop 50 Carriers/Dreads (with some escort obv) against say Goon's massive cannon fodder fleets they'd be toast, which is exactly how it happens now. The Goon's 200+ Neut Cane fleets are particularly devastating against Cap fleets and cost the Goons basically nothing, they don't even have to risk Cap ships other than to come in at the end and mop up what's left.

No, I'm using Goons as an example because they are EXACTLY the type of Alliance that stands in the way of the smaller Alliances that YOU hope to help with the removal of Supers. And I was around when BoB was the evil of Eve and Goons were the good guys... Then we all learned differently once BoB was gone.

As plain as I can explain it, your idea simply will not work. Smaller Alliances will NEVER be competitive against much larger ones NO MATTER WHAT ship types are in the game, period.

All I got from this thread was "lower the amount of supercaps in game"

Simple, put a station realated tax on them, VOILA

BUT BUT BUT.

Why its never going to hapten?
Im sorry I cant discus this because not only will CCP be Peed off but many old vets looking to quit.

Supercaps are the driving force for those players playing the game for 7+ years, take the force away and we end up with WoW and who knows what else.

the change would be so big, not in the form of big ships being removed but literally hearts broken.

Keep these crappy ships in the game, their just crappy, my naglfar does 1500 DPS and Im just bashing myself for ever going full ******, training for and getting any kind of capital ship.

This entire thread screams "move the goal post closer, I can't win."

Name three people that actually matter and quote where they said this. :allears:

Why should I waste my time explaining why you're wrong when you're in the coalition that has no clue on how to use supercaptials effectively and safely? Hint: safely doesn't mean "never use them".

As we've witnessed from the industrial ship tiericide, CCP are reluctant to remove ships from the game entirely. I wouldn't mind seeing tiericide on the carriers so that 'supercarriers' become 'assault carriers'. You know, shrink the model, make them like current carriers but with no logi ability and able to use fighter bombers (10-15 max tho). Give a choice between the current (logi) carriers and something to thump big ships with.

I still think that adding target-able capital subsystems and keeping capitals nerfed in a way that lets them fire only on enemy capitals but also provide significant boosts to sub-cap performance would fix the problems you are seeing.

It's because capitals don't need sub-capitals to survive that we are having an issue... Me thinks at least...